I posted my first model today and have to say it was a very pleasant experience. But I will look there only because I know what is cgtrader and how it works. It's an example of waste of human recourses and time, because how many more are performing this same conversion work without telling? But at the same time they require all rights to the model, and the model is removed from sale at all sites. Remember The3DStudio? Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, + blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). I stumbled across the same issues! On TS buyer cant do such thing, he needs to contact support on TS. Escorts jaipur CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. Free 3D Models - Download Free 3D Models 3DExport [link="http://www.google.com"]google1[/link] However, if you are found to be out of compliance again, your collection will be taken offline for a more extended period of time. Some while ago someone (if he is real, can't even verify that) bought my snakebot model on Ts and he posted a nice comment. Yeah nasty stuff, but hey, I better shut up because I'm one of the hypocrites that keeps supporting that place by having my work on it. We can't even communicate on Ts, and that in an age of supper connectivity, it's just the world on his head. We even stopped publishing new models there. You are right IterateCGI it would be terrible for the photo realistic 3D models however if you think about it not that many 3D artists create things in that style and in some cases are capable of doing that especially some of the newbies. I can think up multiple scenarios to try get a grip on it but I don't actually care anymore. I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. Tom cat cartoon character rigged for Maya 12. This place is indeed different and allot closer to what we actually need, I can't imagine the core principal on witch this place is founded would change as it will prove to be the one and only way to be future proof in this supper connected world. When a buyer leaves a bad rating for a lame reason , TS investigate and contact the buyer and if he doesn't give a serious explanation, google3 Toys (212) Buy or download free 3D models for your CG projects, film and video production, animation, visualizations, games, VR/AR, and others. Why should the artist suffer? Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. I'm just an end-user, one of the people you guys sell to, and the site is a large part of the issue, in multiple ways. Sometimes 3D model can have some errors, or it was not 100% what buyer had imagined it will be. Better for who? CGtrader has been growing steadily faster than Turbosquid for several years, that's why they are making this desperate "first blood" move asking their Investors for an extra cash to buy Sellers out against Marius and his people, with the promise that they will fuck you to death later once the war is won for the #SquidClan. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. I'm glad CGtrader and its community of supporters is able to make this situation come to an end. Chat with Support 24/7 Everything is more and more coming down to individual levels of very friendly and much more human communication. Cgtrader better sell my shoes here than ts.plus webmoney plus royalty rate. It is a wonder how people still haven't fixed bugs like that after so many years and it made the whole uploading process a total hassle. Female Escorts in Mumbai, [link:http://www.google.com]your link text[/link] @dafunk @S/C. - Explaining on a personal basis to certain designers, even under banning threat, that creating very basic objects afters tutorials and selling them for 10$ with comments like : "my best model ever" will only hamper CGTrader credibility ; also that taking a poser or DAZ model, posing it (or even rigging it) in another software and adding a few details to it is still an obvious copyright infringements, if not a simple steal As a game developer i will never buy a 3d models online since 95% are done on student version of software or pirated version. Maybe they would understand that sellers can't be treated as slaves. I'd rather look into ways to create my own site, cause it's a bit tedious to sift through neverending site rules from neverending projects. I agree to what captainmarlowe is telling. I'm a bit afraid there's always going to be issues that leaves this community divided, leaving CGpeople with a platform not able to live up to its full potential and leaving 3D print people with a platform not living up to its full potential either. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment i think cgtrader can grow stronger with higher quality traffic. Here it is quite seamless and elegant. what you say doesn't make any sense because CGTrader has a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all models as far as I know. - Forcing people to choose a proper tagging to their objects so that we don't get scanned high poly print-ready objects in the way when we tick the "low-poly" filter, This market is changing rapidly and Ts is not adapting to the evolution of connectedness within the global CG community. Turbosquid is basically a pyramid scheme for the most part unless you are established and have been in the top rank for many years. This is a totally separate "operation" that is going on under the acquisitions of CGstudio and T3DFM, which serve also as noisy cover to "wag the dog". Most people don't care a bit about all this. This is why I would opt for a system which includes human sorting out capabilities. Some may look great for close ups but in a large environment scene or house setting when you have a lot of models to let's say show off the interior design of a model home you need to be very careful on poly count. People may think that having that option makes it more likely for sellers to see their work by placing their models in the incorrect category but actually that just irritates buyers who may just go elsewhere to buy. They then review the model and contact seller to fix it. Chat with Support 24/7 I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. Putting 3D printing as the main product range on first page doesn't help, as has been noted. You know what is cgtrader but as firstcomer you must have strong impression that this is 3d printing site where you can buy new 3d printed iphone case which will be shipped to you. @limonadinis They recently changed their search engine over there and when you search for Free models it comes up with a few free ones and many more paid ones so from that perspective Turbosquid makes your life even harder lol. Such an arrogant attitude. Hello, So true! the only thing that has cgtrader extra is the freelance job posting area. Turbosquid has terrible royalty rates TS has more sales because : 3. Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. CGTrader has the better platform from my point of view, better rates if i remember correct. Ts would probably just pull up the royalty's and change policy if it stats feeling uncomfortable, but it would not change what is in memory. So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. For this, it is certainly the most pleasant place to sell models I know right now. Sketchfab.com-------------------------------. Fantasy is a bit better, but sic-fi gets me 10 copyright infringements on the first page alone (star wars characters, mainly). Turbosquid has a bot spying cgtrader prices. In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. I think the TS percentage is pretty much an outrage considering the low price of the products being sold. And saying only nice words won't help them much. Do not forget to check out rigged vehicles, guns and other objects, including environments, in addition to rigged characters to increase the control and interactivity you can achieve in your project. my main income its still TS. Of course if you are buying models for the next Transformers movie the poly count won't matter that much because those models may be 500,000 each and you have almost unlimited resources to run those. In fact, I had taken deliberate steps to ensure that I included no content in my designs that could even be construed as overlap. To my amazement something ells also happened, there where still a few people buying my more expensive models on Ts. Using TurboSquid 3D Models in Virtual Worlds. Why is CGTrader better? Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. Most people say you get more sales at Turbosquid than any other 3D marketplace, so even if you get a much lower royalty % in the end you get more money, and while this is true up to a point (NOT x80 sales in any case), what most people don't realize is what happens IF your products are NOT in Turbosquid but you continue to sell in other marketplaces and have a bit of patience. Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. $300 + (280) $200 to $300 (315) $100 to . - Crowdfunding to improve the CGtrader presence in the market. I agree with Captainmarlowe than one of the most important ideas to develop is more "education" for Sellers about all aspects involved in this business, and some kind of system that favors good and fair business practices and penalizes bad ones. Has anyone tried selling 3D models on CGTrader? - Quora Now if this individual was for real I would have loved to contact him and ask If he would like to give me that converted file in exchange for every dollar he paid for the model. I wont be using TurboSquid due to their royalty system and the fact that I would have to hunt down non-existing forms to prove I am not an American resident and thus avoid paying 30% govt. The conclusion seems, that clients are either more familiar with Tsquid, or that TSquid offers something else that is so valuable that even a much lower price doesn't matter. - It's much easier to upload products here than at TS. The next thing CGT needs to do is get in with Ebay, Amazon, walmart etc places where everyone buys not just 3D enthusiasts and that regular people trust with their money. I have to agree. 2. Rank improvement compared to previous 3 months: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cgtrader.com +5,816, http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/turbosquid.com +1,026. (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). Prices are only guaranteed at the time of the creation of this document. There are currently no models in your cart. [quote]1. Recently I've been trying to contact my old clients and buyers and although they still have an interest in my models they don't quite trust CGT with their money. If I run the same test on Turbosquid or The3DStudio, I get almost exclusively original characters. Turbosquid has the traffic and so you get the sails. And it offers a more strategic dimension. taken offline. I hope it goes well for cgtrader i really like this page :-). That is the most important reason for them to be on CGTrader and it is essential to reward them for helping artist and the site earn money! In response to your comments kanga, I would like to add this to the conversation. TS has terrible support, i had stupid responses from them during my interaction with them. For example, I ran into this this morning. Then they would only find the relevant models and get to purchasing them right away. Thingiverse remains the king for licensing, as you can transfer the licence within the site. The response back was, if they are not adjusted end of the week then we will adjust them. Unlike Turbosquid which has remained practically the same since it was created and that actually has become dodgier over time as they have been adding more and more hoops for artists to jump through just to upload a basic model CGT has been great about constantly listening to it's artists needs and made great improvements! Regarding the support case, perhaps you could share the exact details on the case by a message or email to me ([email protected]) - we would like to look more into it and ensure that no cases like that are unsolved. Sales dropped to almost nothing. Then came price guarantee on Ts and now I had a problem, the part I was now successfully serving on CGt I would not want to risk losing back to Ts, nor would I want to lose those few that kept buying my higher priced models there. And if the buyer sees one and the same model on CGT and on TS, then the price will choose on CGTrader I sell my shipping container which is professional model according to my buyers reviews . The claim Turbosquid made was that it infringed on Games Workshop IPs. . The duality of 3D printing/CGmodels is a very complex marriage. You are just providing a platform." If you look around on the net on all the various forums everyone always mentions Turbosquid be it positively or negatively. He bought a cheap product (with a fake account) and post a bad rating. Animated Lion 3D Model 14. I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. 2. ! In other words as an artist in TS you are not so well protected, as it's here at CGT. I had hoped that CGTrader would want to be the kings but i have to be honest if you licence a thing only here you have to own it forever, as you cannot sell that licence. For myself, long live CGTrader and may they keep their principles as they grow. for someone that is a little more unique. (this would be the core of the human sorting out system). It would be mess. If any of you think this is a show of strength from Matt Wisdom and his Corporate brother Andy, think twice. The biggest problem with TS is that it is a pyramid scheme if you have a diamond account you have a good chance of selling models but at the low levels you have no chance. ", Exactly, no one knows the model better than the one who made this model. You can download any 3d model in all popular 3d formats including MAX, OBJ, FBX, 3DS, STL, C4D, BLEND, MAYA and other. Those are very interesting ideas to develop for the future. See this GFXHub where you needed to pay a fee before you could download 3d models of Humster3d, Turbosquid and many other. Both are still growing, but it seems CGtrader is growing much more. I did not know about that. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. I'm probably leaving this site for good, but it won't be because of you guys - it's because of the site itself. TS has bather page rank, when someone searches the net it will come on top, simple because it is an older website. At least some aspects of it. The "crap models", "under-priced models" issue is a very sensitive topic that should be discussed. And yes .. "CG Trader has made their world about 3d printing". it is a sad reality, some sellers are ready to buy a model of their competitor to post a bad rating. - An improvement in search results based on manual rating from sellers and/or CGtrader staff. Every market needs time, every business needs it. I had a conversation with Eduardas he confirmed that they will improve the feedback system. I have been very active on a forum of a different 3D model store, but the guys running it seemed to be ignorant about the issue. More specifically, the 3D Model may not be exported or sold. Based on those traffic stats CGtrader would clearly benefit from more advertisement out there. [/quote] I was 2 times victim of credit card fraud on Ts, never happened on CGt so far. The staff on CG Trader seem to be very active and listen to ideas from the community, so I will try to find time and post some ideas on how the problem could be solved. We can help here by simple putting the links to our work on our social media. I am getting more sales on Cgtrader than TS though :P and CGtrader is easier to use. Delhi Escort Of those limited people just a hand full would actually buy models or put money towards models so if TS already has won those people we need to find our own nitch or we go out of business. And IMHO search is an area where CGT shoul focus first. I think posting links to showcase your model in an animation or to show how a rig works is extremely advantageous. So click on a category. @skifx, @made21, my royalty rate is 80% and i earn from each sale from 72% to 77% depending on the model's price - the pricier the model is, the lesser payment processing fee gets. At some point in the past both Turbosquid and The3DStudio had to get through a huge cleansing of their site and removed thousands of objects that were hampering their credibility. there is low quality traffic on cgtrader and also became too much focused on 3d printing models so gets affordable if u have many low quality printable models of cheap prices. I have it is about 5%. Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. I have always been amazed at how TS can pull off their selling stunt, I've got better stuff AND cheaper on here than on TS but the sales over there totally dominate. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. the only advantages in cgtrader are the big rates for clients. Please don't get impression that i'm trying to bash CGT, i don't i favor CGT over TS any day, but i want that they up their game in this concurent buisness. Rigged 3D Models | CGTrader 3D Models Buy or download free Rigged 3D Models Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. I like the deposit proposal of flat_3d, but jet again it probably best be part of a repertoire of marketing tools the designer could choose from, not a global policy. And at the same time, if they periodically do something here, try to add something new, then the TS, as long as I remember it, does not particularly try to become convenient (But at the same time it takes most of the profit !!!). A few months went by with my models offline and during that time my GCt sales gradually went up at a level consistent with the few sales I had left behind on Ts so I just deleted all my models at Ts. Batman (Rig) for Maya 10. . Honestly, who wants to buy nudes anyway? The paypal commission is paid 2 times - 1 when the model is bought, 2 times - when money is paid to the seller. They call that "3D Industry" on the download report .. it's rare but it's happend (one time for me) Also you need to think about the advantage of not having to worry about shipping costs etc with digital art. If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. CGTrader is extremely accessible, perhaps too much so for its own good in some lights. If a model you like does not have a suitable file format, be sure to see whether the designer offers free file conversions for the model. After selling on TS over 20 years I can share that our sales here are x5-10 higher (partially due to stopped publishing on TS), so why about uploaded your models on artstation marketplace or other market place which allows you to sell in other sites, I think ts is the worth one. Turbosquid.com4. CGtrader.com3. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. I guess CGTrader should send out advertising to the companies, but I'm sure they are doing/done it already. We want to improve the site not make it worse :). That is a big killer for licencing anything here that you intend to sell the licence for, leaving me with having to licence at Thingiverse first then using CGTrader as advertising or selling copies of the files only. I like the concept of CGtrader very much, hope to see the duality issues resolved. Same for me, here. That is true, but im talking if buyer is already familiar with existence of CGTrader, he can reap all the benefits then. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. 60% cut could be ok if that cost could be added to the product but price guarantee makes that impossible. Thanks for sharing Your experience and thoughts. video services, 3D viewers, social media , crowd funding platforms, etc.) Part of it is because they don't want to get scammed. Most of the Ts artists also moved their work over here and almost everyone knows that, just not the ones hoe are exclusive, it's not going to take too long now before they systematically start breaking the exclusive contract when they see sales going down every month and things going up over here. Order 3D models. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. But we forgot about the buyers. CGtrader website is much bather coded and it just need some time to get on top. It would be great to have more of your feedback so we could make it better for buyers. They lie about your rights on Turbosquid. I removed all products from TS. ", then there is little one can do but wait out the rebalancing. Ts went head on and contacted me (I was probably among list of targeted folks at that time, Ts previously also contacted me to make some shady deals which I rejected), now they requested me to lower my prices according to new price grantee model. Say you happen to be a great render and lighting specialist but not so well a modeler, you see this nice models that have potential but the presentation is very bad (from good modeler with no render skills). When you search for specific models car, bike etc you usually end up finding a bunch of irrelevant models in there that don't even belong in that category and that is largely due to the fact that, they allow users to setup their own tags NoneCg I've read almost all your information regarding the public issues. Allot of snags and details need to be worked out in order to make this sorts of things happen but the main idea here is to have complimentary forces working together to make a better product. This is due to discrimination in the pricing policy of the "TS" site. Fine details have been sculpted on the model down to pores and fine lines on the face and body. That's just an easy question to answer 1. Bala - Female Rigged Character 3D model 3D - TurboSquid 2034950 I don't know whether it would be possible to implement, but it would stop those who just wanted to download as many free models as possible. And if the buyer sees one and the same model on CGT and on TS, then the price will choose on CGTrader [/quote] Thingiverse has allowed licenses to be transferred into another users name, which is very important option if you want to invent something and sell the ownership, else your stuck with it forever. My price at the time was same both on Ts as on CGt but after some time position on CGt got better and sales was picking up. Thus by searching to widen its audience, the buyer only decrease the site credibility. The first thing you see is almost only 3D printing assets. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. Is Sketchfab better than Turbosquid and CGTrader for selling 3D - Quora adentonclark is 100 percent correct in this regard! My sales are not still on par with TS, but I haven't published new models for quite some time, because I only have time to create models to enter challenges from time to time. CG Trader. Don't forget those young people are going to shape the future of this market and if we want to have a flourishing market then we need lots of well trained people in it. ;). Well, it was more than one year ago that I last intervened on this thread. I tried to contact the buyer several times with no response. There is indeed much structural work that needs to be done here but the core foundation/principal is here. I think John Hoagland already pointed out very well the most direct benefits of doing business with Cgtrader over Turbosquid. What I read on different forums seems obvious, exclusivity no longer pays. Just condemn this type of fear tactics right-away and start supporting better organizations. Not that I like it or want to have my objects "borrowed". Sometimes you have to support the buyer. You can change your subscription preferences at any time in the account settings. In this case the fastest support can not help. My friend didn't get any support. I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. That thing is just getting started ;-). But now, I'm exploring a new platform which is Sketchfab. On TS depends on the country you come for, you get around 30% of your earnings (this is how much you get on your account, I know it is stated 60% but they take additional 30% for US tax), here I am not shore how much you get as I just joined and did not made any sales. And precisely here is where I think resides the greater problem. Once that happens it is goodbye Turbosquid and hello big bucks for all of us at CGtrader. TurboSquid. Dear adentonclark, just 2 years ago still existed. Over the years they have shown me that they really care about we think about the way things should be run and they have been adapting the website based on our combined ideas. So if I am looking after regular CG models, afters a few minutes search, my logical choice is not to search on CGTrader but rather on "old-fashioned" sites. If you manage to get lots of buyers on there you could make a real fortune. There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. You can just buy and return it if it is not to your satisfaction. https://vimeo.com/739678 You can change your subscription preferences at any time in the account settings. But if you are on Turbosquid as an exclusive sale (models will be sold only on the website TurboSquid), Cgtrader can lose and this position, in favor of TS You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. At one hand I could think this was indeed evidence that Ts had some clients that do not know about CGt. So good luck "shopping elsewhere" dear customer, this is turning into a monopoly slaughterhouse and a 3D warzone. Female Hand, Andrey Gritsuk : Hello Friends, glad to present you my It was the most unpleasant experience. Pleas just stand your ground, we need people coming in not leaving out. Using TurboSquid products in Browser based games. I can easily imagine that serious clients who value their time very high, might choose TS over CGT without second thought. Gumroad is an awesome virtual marketplace where artists can create their own store and sell any type of digital asset, from textures to tutorial series. I think that they keep the 3D models as a curtsey only or to serve as samples that could at a later date be turned into prints. My initial stance on this was, ok fine then my Ts account can stay up for those few that seemingly do not know anything ells outside of Ts. I'm just an end-user, one of the people you guys sell to, and the site is a large part of the issue, in multiple ways. In my understanding, for CG models, there are three main trends : large public with various expectations and low budget (roughly, poser people) ; professionals needing a good quality model quick and ready to pay for that (roughly, TS buyers), programmers wanting to create video games in search of game ready assets.