I cant stand when preachers pound the pulpits because its distracting and irritating for me though I am not against preachers yelling as long as they dont yell too loud. Hypocrites! What if it had been biting you for 5, 10, 15, or (in my case) 25 years and you managed to finally escape would you go back or send a love one to pet it? What sorrow awaits you! Every time I got to a low point in my life, I knew that I could count on the church to be there for me. Im mocking IFB beliefs many of which arent scriptural. If your eyes quickly scan down to see if a fellow female church member is wearing the acceptable skirt, dress or koulotts outside of church, and Heaven forbid shes wearing capris or pants!! We believe in the natural divisions of Scriptures as a basis for study. Because of your traditions you have destroyed the authority of Gods word. If you believe that women are inferior to men and are to be submissive to their husbands, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 32. First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friends eye. We ONLY pray to God because saints dont serve as mediators to God the Father. I dont have to try and understand it, I already know it. We believe the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments to be the Bible, as it is in truth, the Word of God (I Thessalonians 2:13). It seems most on here have a issue with IFB churches. N/A The only sin that is not forgivable is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. I also KNOW the areas that Hes not pleased with as I choose to hold on to that which the Bible clearly states as sin. Im not sure where your pastor got that from, but its not in the Bible. They were so grieved by the fact that they had broken a 30+ year record of being at church three times a week. WebWe believe that Jesus gave Christians two ordinances: The Lords Supper and Baptism. Baptists are people of the Bible and not fellings. I personally fall under Southern Missionary Baptist, and literally had questions in regards to my recent visits at an IFB church. If you are careful to not show any emotion while singing for fear that you could be considered dancing, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 33. 32. We can joke around about a differing denomination that we dont agree with, but how we react to a situation that wasnt intended, also matters greatly. Does he always heal people no. The sacredness of human personality is evident in that God created man in His own image and is mindful of him, and in that Christ died for man; therefore every individual possesses dignity and is worthy of respect and Christian love. Anyway, Im sorry that you had a bad experience at an IFB church, but that doesnt excuse you for mocking Biblical beliefs. 42. 12 But those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted. But what He hates about us is the pride and arrogance in us. If your pastor is telling you otherwise hes a heretic. Yes, we have a tract rack. [11] Also in June 2019, Grayson Fritts, pastor at New IFB-affiliated All Scripture Baptist Church and a former detective for the Knox County, Tennessee, Sheriff's Office, delivered a sermon calling for the execution of gays.[12]. What is a Bible Baptist Church, and what do Bible Baptists believe. God Bless. (Romans 13:1-7; Ephesians 5:21-6:4; Hebrews 13:17; I Peter 2:13-15). 1. No, but I wanted to send the rest of my life with him. For which is more importantthe gift on the altar or the altar that makes the gift sacred? I dare say it would be the one you enjoy making fun of. If your youth pastor eats a goldfish or gives away a baseball cap for every visitor a child brings, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. 26 You blind Pharisee! The Duggar family, so much in the news lately, are Independent Fundamental Baptists (IFB), a loosely affiliated, singularly cultish denomination of at people who raise their hands during worship music you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 34. We believe that Jesus Christ died for every man, and that each individual chooses to accept or reject the grace of God (Hebrews 2:9; I John 2:2). Pastor and his wife did pay for the reception, photography, and shower. If you believe that everyone who opposes IFB doctrine is just bitter, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 48. Instead of reprimanding me why dont you pray for the lost? 4 How can you think of saying to your friend, Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye, when you cant see past the log in your own eye? If you believe women shouldnt wear pants, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 12. 55. I dare say probably not. If you believe that God cant use a divorced man and pull out your Scofield Bible to show why, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 39. Christ is the o nly head of the church (Acts 13:1-4, 15:19-31, 20:28; Romans 16:1, 4; I Corinthians 3:9,16; 5:4-7,13; I Peter 5:1-4). If you (like Jason) come to this site to criticize sarcasm by hypocritically using sarcasm, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. King James is the inspired word of God While I do like the old King James Bible but King James Only is wrong because its misleading and its legalism. N/A Youre perfect for them because they dont want people challenging their belief system. A strong percentage of our funding comes through several hundred local churches who support If you are really interested in finding out about my poor experiences with the IFB please read the website rather than make assumptions. Tithing is also commanded in the bible and we are to give because he loves us and give with a joyful heart. Baptist Churches Since 1975 Are From the Ministry of a Man of Whom it Has Been Said: You are probably the most childish acting preacher I have an old high school friend here with me who started visiting churches. the Bible teaches us to prove and test matters. As I sit under preaching, sing worship songs unto the Lord, pray earnestly, read my Bible as often as I can, and search through commentaries to help me gain a deeper knowledge instead of surface reading, I KNOW Im drawing closer to God in a personal relationship with Him. Its pure manipulation. We dont mind being scrutinized or even judged. Im glad they didnt because Id probably be ashamed admitting Im a liar. Now, I am a 25 year old women with 3 children a 4, 2, and 7 month old and my Husband is 26. Read one thing, make a judgment that Im just bitter and move on. I did learn a lot. They are counting on your service and tithe. God forgave my husband through Christ. The New IFB's website lists its core doctrines as salvation by faith alone, once saved always saved, King James Bible-only, the Trinity, soul-winning, "hard" preaching, prewrath post-tribulation rapture, and opposition of worldliness, Calvinism, dispensationalism, liberalism, and Zionism. If you think anything other than a suit and tie for men is too casual for Sundays, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 11. you DVR the Superbowl (or watch sport center on your phone in the vestibule) because you cant miss church. I am also against body piercings as well. We affirm without apology the doctrines frequently identified as the Fundamentals of the Faith, which include the deity, virgin birth, sinless life, substitutionary death, bodily resurrection, and imminent return of Jesus Christ. We ARE the church my friend! I know you scoff at my pity but there it is. As God's priests, we can study His Word, pray for our needs, intercede for others, offer worship, and serve in His work. The tradition of men, human opinion, false science, religious creeds, nor popular opinion override the plain teaching of God's Word. Duh Get your mind out of the gutter. Jack hyles was an adulterous heretic. Hypocrites! Praise the lord for forgiveness. I want no part of it except to expose it for what it is cultish. WebOur Mission. If you think that three church services per week is the minimum and that you must attend all three every week (Sunday mornings, Sunday evenings, and Wednesday evenings for Bible studies which I will assume) I cant agree with this, you must attend at least one. Frankly its not your place to tell me what I should and shouldnt do (typical IFB who thinks they know what everyone is supposed to be doing). The IFB is the one who is hurting the cause of Christ, just like the Pharisees did. I can not forgive sins! WebBaptists reject the notion of baptism of people who do not know what is happening to them, such as children. 6. They all work together. For they dont practice what they teach. For you are so careful to clean the outside of the cup and the dish, but inside you are filthyfull of greed and self-indulgence! Exposing the Dangerous Teachings of the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Denomination, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception 2009-2020, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception, You Might Be an Independent Fundamental Baptist if, https://baptistdeception.com/bitterness-deception/, https://baptistdeception.com/testimonials/, https://baptistdeception.com/reasons-for-not-accepting-the-kjv-as-gods-preserved-word-a-response-to-pastor-james-melton/, https://www.openbible.info/topics/tithe_in_the_new_testament, http://www.thelaymansbiblicalhandbook.com/, Broad Stroking and Sweeping Generalizations Fallacy, Harold Camping Fails to Predict the Rapture, The 10 Commandments of the Independent Fundamental Baptists, 92-Year-Old Woman Kicked Out of Church for not Tithing. Only the KJV will be used in this group; But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. I do not know if laugh or cry , almost 30 yrs involved in this , Im still a Christian , I serve in my church , Ive learned more since I left the movement , I am happier more devoted Christian than when I was manipulated to go out soulwinning , bus driving ,Sunday school teaching etc. Generally its the Pastor, or Preaching Elder or Minister, that has to attend multiple services because he has to preach the sermon. If you think that tithing of ten percent of your income is the minimum I dont have any position on this even though I do believe in tithes and offerings. New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches (also known as the New IFB) or officially the New Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement are an association of conservative, King James Only, independent Baptist churches. If you think that more than one earring per ear for women is worldly, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 13. Inspired by Jeff Foxworthys You Might Be A Redneck IfI came up with a similar list of items for the IFB. People are people and free to choose their own way. You would probably also classify the God of the Old Testament as abusive. [13] Robertson had previously attracted media attention after he stated that gay people should be shot and New Zealand prime minister Jacinda Ardern should "go home and get in the kitchen". (Mat 22:37-40) Can you honestly say that this is of God. God values his word, even above his own name, and when you or I meet God, what we think means nothing to God, unless it lines up with His Word. Jesus will save you if you believe in your heart that he was raised from the dead and admit out loud that Jesus is your lord. If your not getting a lot out of your bible read I would recommend a switch to Kjv and to define any word you dont know Slow down reading and meditate on what your reading dont read as a duty each day but as a searching for fellowship each day. Anderson, Fannin and Shelley traded accusations of financial wrongdoing and running a cult. Despite having overcome drug addiction, trouble controlling my drinking, and a whole lot of other issues, my church never told me to leave, never told me to come back when I was better, never scolded me. For example, #54. Was so funny reading it, one thing that struck me is if an outsider were to read it theyd be incredulous, wondering how we stuck with it for so long. First Works had previously been the site of protests by activists opposed to its anti-LGBTQ teachings, but police reported there was no evidence linking the protesters to the bombing. A friendly fellowship group for members of local New Testament Independent Baptist churches. Grow your faith in a less toxic environment. I forgot to mention my concerns on some of the other beliefs of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Church: He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. Matthew 6:14-15 They have distinct responsibilities and operations. (2 Timothy 2:15), We believe the first day of the week is the Lords Day. WebThe Road to Emmaus Baptist Church is an independent Baptist church in Monaca, Pennsylvania. The Lord is doing His work in ths world through local churches. or any combination of the above isnt really saved because of that/those behavior(s), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 52. Matthew 6:14-15 is a warning not a command. If you party, DO NOT drink. For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: Get over it and work to rebuild the relationships instead of tearing down. We believe in the reality of the person of Satan and that he and the fallen angels wage a spiritual warfare against the plan and purposes of God (John 13:2; Acts 5:3; Ephesians 6:11-12). Sometimes it makes you wonder if they have EVER read/learned anything from Jesus! I mean, why would you think its too liberal to sing anything other than hymns in the church because, there are some churches within the Southern Baptist Convention, which is different from the IFB, that have a contemporary music worship in one service and have traditional hymns in another service. THE PARABLE IS NOT A GUIDE NOR DID JESUS SAY THAT ITS A MAP ON HOW TO DEAL with a wayward child!! God is the only one who can forgive mans sins. We believe that the Holy Spirit is the Person who reproves the world of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment; and that He is the Supernatural Agent in regeneration, indwelling all believers and sealing them unto the day of redemption (John 16:8-11; II Corinthians 3:6; Romans 8:9; Ephesians 1:13-14). IFB people as a whole, are generally willfully ignorant people. If you believe that using guitars in church is too liberal, yet you listen to patch the pirate who uses guitars, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 14. No denomination, governmental body, or religious hierarchy may dictate the church's beliefs or practices. No one knew about the marriage except us. We believe in salvation by grace 7 They love to receive respectful greetings as they walk in the marketplaces, and to be called Rabbi.. I will have to argue that while on vacation we just go to church somewhere else rather than dashing home. Im not responsible for how its perceived. Refusing to eat at a restaurant because they serve alcohol Theres nothing wrong with eating at a restaurant you just cant order alcohol, thats all. I dont think having two revivals a year is a bad thing as they word states we should continue to get together as believers. around the world wherever our Lord directs. You are falling right in line with what they want someone who will robotically obey them. We teach that baptism is necessary for salvation as I get this quote from the King James Version from John 3:5; Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. [4], Despite the website's claims that each church is independent, some followers and former followers of the New IFB have accused Anderson of having complete control over the organization and ejecting anyone who has a minor disagreement with him. I agree some are or at least seem to be what most consider legalistic. I truly dont understand this one, ha! We dont think rational thought is dangerous. In thinking back, I see that the church was filled with tiny idols like that. Independent Fundamental Baptist is NOT a denomination because they are Independent I am not Baptist but they are CLOSE to being a denomination because of their beliefs. You seem to enjoy copying and pasting scripture with no explanation or apparent relevance to the discussion so I thought Id give it a try also. We wanted help and we wanted to know what the Bible said. We had no money.. Belief number 51 is absolutely wrong. 47. You can forgive him, that doesnt mean you have to marry him. Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: 8 These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. (1 Timothy 2:1-6; 1 Peter 2:5,9; Revelation 5:9,10), The local church is mandated by God to practice two ordinances. Everyone has health issues. We didnt go, but they came back the next week. If that doesnt raise red flags for you I dont know what will. The Pharisees were filled with hypocrisy and iniquity and my church is not. WebThe 1920 Baptist Fundamentals declared, The fundamental principle of the Baptists, in common with many other evangelicals, has always been the gospel, which is the essence Yes but this is my concern about the IFB beliefs and I understand this was written to make it funny. And if a lost person were to stumble upon this page and read your list and how you respond to any differing opinions, would you be helping plant a seed? If you look down on people who are divorced, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 38. This list are things that are unique to the IFB. Please read this article for more information: https://baptistdeception.com/reasons-for-not-accepting-the-kjv-as-gods-preserved-word-a-response-to-pastor-james-melton/, I hope that you left your church in good terms and that they knew how you felt and whoever was wrong to be revived and allow the precense [sic] of God to bring the individual to the norm in other words what christian ought to be not what men want to be..
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